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Candidate for Governor's Council, District 3

Sheff for Governor's Council in District 3

I have a question for Patch-nation.

Is the following a viable argument in the Governor's Council race? (If you dont know what the Governor's Council is please visit my website and there's an explanation of the job there.)

Is the following a viable issue: For those who don't know, Dominic Cinelli was a man who was released on Parole several years ago. Cinelli was to be serving three lifetime sentences, they don't give lifetime sentences for jay-walking, he was a hardened criminal. In their infinite wisdom, the parole board voted by a 5-2 margin to allow him to go on parole.  After six months of trying to find a job, he got frustrated and went back to what he knew best, he robbed a Kohls department store. During the robbery, Cinelli got caught in a shoot out which led to a Woburn Police officer dying in the shootout.  The fallout from all of this, is that the five members of the parole board who voted to allow him to go, resigned. 

My questions are: Was the fallout enough? Should it have extended to the Governor's Council (even though the Governor's Council is elected), for appointing the parole board into office and/or is it viable to say since the Governor's Council showed such poor judgement in appointing the parole board, can we  only assume that the same poor judgement went into appointing judges?

The counter-argument will be: The governor's Council can only do so much. Once the Governor's Council appoints these people there is nothing they can do. They have to trust the system, they can't make people tell the truth during questioning and they have to have faith in the system, then go onto the next appointment.

What do you think? 

PREDATOR

9:02 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

The problem is systemic. In an overwhelmingly liberal state one can only expect an overwhelmingly liberal government implementing overwhelmingly liberal policies. The sad truth is in Mass the criminal is often defended and the victim prosecuted or demonized. So no....the reaction was not nearly enough....however, here that is also to be expected.

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Tom Sheff

10:27 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Hi Predator,
Are you talking about the reaction of the citizens/voters or the fallout from thre event? Do either arguments hit home with you. Fallout enough...you probably answered that as No, The second argument was do you think it's a viable argument to say that if their judgement was so poor in appointing parole board members is it legitimate to say their logic will be flawed when deciding judgeships?

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PREDATOR

10:44 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Both...the fallout from the citizens/voters in general and the fallout directed at the parole board AND the Gov's Council were sadly lacking. A police officer, a man who swore to protect us, was murdered by a POS who was already dealt with by society, problem solved. But wait....lets let him out. Brilliant! If a person or group of people cannot be trusted to keep violent CONVICTED felons behind bars they certainly should not and cannot be trusted to appoint those who will rule over those trials in the first place.

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Greer Tan Swiston

9:05 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Tom, good for you in blogging about actual issues that we should be thinking about.

However, my concern on this case is more on the focus that everyone is putting on the parole board and trying to blame everyone except the culprit, Mr. Cinelli. There is no excuse for his behavior. It is not the parole board's fault that he killed a cop. It was entirely his fault. It was not the parole board's fault that he felt he had no alternative, where were all the people who came "in support" of his parole? Why weren't they there to support him in his endeavors to "re-integrate"? Why didn't they have any skin in the game for him to succeed since they were apparently instrumental in getting him out on parole?

The heart of the problem is the unwillingness of the system, the public and the media to put talk about the responsibility and blame that falls on Mr. Cinelli and his family members who asked for a concession from their community at little to no cost to themselves. And yes, that public is from where our parole board members are drawn. That public is from whom our Governors' Council is elected. That public is who voted them in. That public is us.

When we learn to stop helping perpetrators see others as responsible for their actions, we can then reform our system to protect the innocent. When we are willing to hold ourselves responsible for our role in this, our votes, our actions (sometimes through inaction), then we will have hope in reform.

I live in hope.

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PREDATOR

9:20 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Greer....I think we are infact saying the same thing....just in different ways. I agree that the parole board did not cause the officers death, however they had it within their power to prevent it. The blame does fall squarely on Cinellis shoulders but the problem is that he had already been identified as a violent felon, tried, convicted, and imprisoned.....it is the parole board's job to keep him in prison and prevent further harm to society.

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Greer Tan Swiston

10:18 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

@Predator ,,, yes, I agree that the parole board did not do their job to service to the whole community.

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Tom Sheff

10:41 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

I agree with both Greer and Predator (thanks for blogging). While I agree that Cinelli didnt have the resources to rehabilitate after he got out, and I believe there should be, my question still is do you feel that the people who put in place this parole board shares any responsibility for the debacle?
This is my opinion on what you blogged about and that is I do believe we need more concentration on helping convicts once they get paroled.
Jail is to serve the public in 2 ways: to rehabilitate the people that can be rehabilitated and to protect the public from those who can't be rehabilitated. I dont know what happened during the Cinelli parole hearing, it must have been an incredible dog and pony show, but I just can't get over the fact that he got out.

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Greer Tan Swiston

1:14 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

I do not know enough about the process that was followed that resulted in the current parole selection, so I don't feel that I'm in a position to judge whether the members of the Governor's Council did their job or not.

Are you suggesting that there was a problem in the parole board selection/nomination/confirmation process that resulted in a parole board that would end up not doing their job?

I would agree that it bears investigation if there hasn't been one. At this point, I don't have enough information to judge one way or another.

However, if you are implying that you are running for Governor's Council as a way to directly impact this process whether it be to shed more light on how future parole board members would be selected and vetted ... I commend you.

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Tom Sheff

1:39 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Hi Greer, One of the reasons I am running is to shed light on the process of vetting in both the parole board and for judgeships. I am arguing that there was poor judgement used by the governor's council in vetting both. I feel the process is flawed as well.

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PREDATOR

2:46 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Similar to an interview, only more in depth. It determines a person's ability, intelligence, character, and morals with regards to the required task.

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Tom Sheff

4:54 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Greer, the vettig process are interviews, as predator stated, also open hearings on the candidates, testimoney from witnesses, (ie friends, clients, family, etc.), background checks, etc.

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